Thursday, May 22, 2025

Summary of CPAC Meeting to Discuss Proposed Cultural Property Agreement with Vietnam and Renewals of Cultural Property Agreements with Chile, Costa Rica, Italy and Morocco

 On May 20, 2025, the US Cultural Property Advisory Committee (CPAC) met in a virtual public session to accept comments regarding a proposed Cultural Property Agreement or Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam as well as renewals of current agreements with the Republics of Chile, Costa Rica, and Italy and the Kingdom of Morocco.  The meeting was rescheduled from an earlier date of February 4-6, 2025, pursuant to President Trump’s regulatory freeze, which has now been lifted.  The Ancient Coin Collectors Guild, the Global Heritage Alliance, and the International Association of Professional Numismatists all sought an additional postponement to allow time for the Trump Administration to appoint its own CPAC members and decision-maker, but this request was denied.

The Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs’ (ECA’s) website describes these requests as follows:

Vietnam

Vietnam seeks protection for archaeological and ethnological materials from ca. 75,000 BCE to 1945 CE, from the following time periods and cultures: Paleolithic (c. 75,000 BCE – 10,000 BCE), Neolithic period (c. 10,000 BCE – 2,000 BCE), Bronze Age (c. 2,000 BCE – 1,000 BCE), and Iron Age (c. 1,000 BCE – 200 CE), the Ancient period (2,879 BCE - 179 BCE), Northern domination period (179 BCE – 939 CE), and the Dynasty and Monarchy period (939 – 1945 CE) including objects made from gold, silver, ceramic, stone, metal, copper, bronze, iron, bone, horn, ivory, gems, silk and textiles; lacquerware and wood; bamboo and paper; glass; coins; and painting and calligraphy.

Chile

Extending the Chile MOU would continue import restrictions on categories of archaeological material ranging in date from approximately 31,000 B.C. to 1868 A.D.

Costa Rica

Extending the Costa Rica MOU would continue import restrictions on categories of archaeological material ranging in date from approximately 12,000 B.C. to the time of the establishment of Hispanic culture in Costa Rica (approximately 1550 A.D.).

Italy

Extending the Italy MOU would continue import restrictions on categories of archaeological material ranging in date from approximately 900 B.C. to 400 A.D.

Morocco

Extending the Morocco MOU would continue import restrictions on categories of archaeological material ranging in date from approximately one million B.C. to approximately 1750 A.D. and certain ethnological material from the Saadian and Alaouite dynasties, ranging in date from approximately 1549 to 1912 A.D.

Cultural Property Advisory Committee Meeting, May 20-23, 2025, Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs Media Center (amended May 1, 2025) available at  https://eca.state.gov/highlight/cultural-property-advisory-committee-meeting-may-20-23-2025  (last visited May 21, 2025).

The CPAC members did not introduce themselves before the public session, but CPAC currently includes the following individuals appointed by President Biden: (1) Alexandra Jones (Chair, Represents/Expertise Archaeology, Anthropology, related fields, CEO Archaeology in the Community, Washington, DC); (2) Alex Barker (Represents/Expertise Archaeology, Anthropology, related fields) Director, Arkansas Archeological Survey, Arkansas); (3) Mirriam Stark, Represents/Expertise Archaeology, Anthropology, related fields, Professor of Anthropology, University of Hawaii); (4) Nii Otokunor Quarcoopome (Represents/Expertise Museums, Curator and Department head, Detroit Museum of Art); ( (5) Andrew Conners (Represents/Expertise Museums, Director, Albuquerque Museum, New Mexico); (6) Michael Findlay (Represents/Expertise: International Sale of Cultural Property, Director, Acquavella Galleries, New York); (7) Amy Cappellazzo, Represents/Expertise: International Sale of Cultural Property, Principal, Art Intelligence Global; (8) Cynthia Herbert (Represents/Expertise: International Sale of Cultural Property President, Appretium Appraisal Services LLC, Connecticut); (9) Thomas R. Lamont (Represents Public, President of Lamont Consulting Services, LLC, Illinois);  (10) Susan Schoenfeld Harrington  (Represents Public, Past Deputy Finance Chair, Democratic National Committee, Past Board member, China Art Foundation); and, (11) William Teitelman (Represents General Public, Legislative Counsel to the PA Trial Lawyers Association, Attorney (Retired)).

The meeting was conducted entirely on Zoom.  None of the members identified themselves to the speakers so it was difficult to ascertain who attended the meeting.

There were also Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs Cultural Heritage Center staff present, including  Glen Davis, Director of the Cultural Heritage Center and Andrew Zonderman, a Foreign Affairs Officer who is serving as CPAC’s Executive Director.  Messrs. Davis and Zonderman are new to their positions.   

The Chair, Alexandra Jones, welcomed the speakers.  She thanked the speakers for attending, indicated that all comments had been read, and that speakers would be given five minutes each to present their oral comments. 

Dr. Ömür Harmanşah spoke as the Vice President for Cultural Heritage, Archaeological Institute of America (“AIA”).  Given time constraints, he focused his comments on Italy and Morocco and the new MOU with Vietnam.  He stated that the AIA was chartered by Congress in 1906 and that today it has some 200,000 members which includes professionals and members of the interested public.  Dr. Harmanşah argued that all three countries suffered from looting which is a global phenomenon. He praised the work of the Carabinieri, noting that had successfully dismantled two looting networks recently. He indicated that the French government had repatriated 35,000 objects to Morocco seized from and illicit collection. He further indicated that bronze and iron age sites suffered from looting in Vietnam.   He further indicated that all three countries had taken self-help measures to protect their own cultural patrimony.  The work of the Carabinieri and their cooperation with the Manhattan DA’s office and Homeland Securities Investigations is well known.  Harmanşah  also highlighted loans being used for cultural exchange purposes.  He mentioned that Morocco loaned materials to Northwestern University’s Block Museum of Art for the exhibition, “Caravans of Gold, Fragments in Time: Art, Culture, and Exchange across Medieval Saharan Africa.”

The AIA’s written comments about the Proposed MOU with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam can be found here:  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0181

The AIA’s written comments on the Renewal with the Republic of Chile can be found here:

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0178

The AIA’s written comments about the Renewal with the Republic of  Italy can be found here:

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0179

The AIA’s written comments about the Renewal with the Kingdome of Morocco can be found in the 2024 docket here: 

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0180  

Peter Tompa spoke as executive director for the International Association of Professional Numismatists (IAPN).  He indicated that the Trump Administration’s emphasis on promoting American business and scaling back regulations require CPAC to consider a new paradigm, one which facilitates the lawful trade in common items like coins, particularly where they are already legally available for sale in countries seeking restrictions.   With regard to the Italian renewal, there should be no further expansion of the current designated list to include late Roman Republican and Roman Imperial coins.  One cannot assume that Roman Imperial coins are found in Italy.  Scholarly evidence demonstrates that only 5.24% of the 15,000 coin hoards containing 6 million coins are found there.  Larger denomination Greek era coinage that circulated in international trade should be delisted.  Given Italy’s large internal market, issuance of export certificates should be mandated and US Customs should also recognize legal exports from Italy’s sister European Union countries as legal imports under the MOU.  There should be no new restrictions placed on coins for Vietnam. Coins are openly sold there at a gift shop at the Hue UNESCO World Heritage site.  It would be confusing to place restrictions on cash coins that are inconsistent with those for China, given the fact that many more times such coins are found in China. There should be no restrictions on machine struck coins of the French protectorate, minted in France or in the US, as they do not fit the definitions of either archaeological or ethnological objects. The Moroccan designated list should be scrapped because it is so broad that importers lack fair notice of what particular coins are actually restricted. Spanish colonial and early Republican era coins that circulated in Costa Rica and Chile circulated in far greater quantities elsewhere, including as US legal tender until 1857 and should remain unrestricted.

Peter Tompa’s oral statement can be found here:  https://culturalpropertyobserver.blogspot.com/2025/05/its-time-for-reset.html

IAPN’s written comments seeking an additional postponement can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0014

IAPN’S written comments on the Proposed MOU with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0019

IAPN’s written comments on Renewal with the Republic of Chile can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0017

IAPN’s written comments on the Renewal of the MOU with the Republic of Costa Rica can be found here, https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0013

IAPN’s written comments on the Renewal with the Republic of Italy can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0018

IAPN’s written comments on the Renewal with the Kingdom of Morocco can be found here:  https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0020

Peter Tompa’s personal comments as supplemented can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0041

Elias Gerasoulis spoke as executive director of the Global Heritage Alliance (GHA) and also on behalf of the Committee for Cultural Policy (CCP). Gerasoulis indicated each request failed to meet the four requirements for either a new or extended MOU. He also noted that the number of MOUs issued by CPAC has more than doubled in recent years. Over thirty countries are now covered. Import restrictions now extend over virtually all cultural material dating from prehistory to the early 20th century, lacking any connection to actual looting or risk.  Gerasoulis indicated that a MOU with Italy is no longer necessary given the Carabinier’s successful efforts to bring looting under control.  Gerasoulis indicated that Morocco has prioritized tourism over archaeological preservation and that there is no credible evidence of serious looting. Gerasoulis also indicates that there is no evidence of serious current looting in either Chile or Costa Rica.  He also mentions that the Director of Costa Rica’s national museum was previously arrested for looting.  Gerasoulis then commented on the proposed MOU with Vietnam. Vietnam has a strong, public domestic legal market, and is clearly focused on tourism rather than archaeological protection – yet it seeks restrictions up until the mid-20th century.  The MOU request is about asserting national branding and control over diaspora heritage.

CPAC member Andrew Connor disputed Gerasoulis’ statements about looting arguing that proponents of the MOUs have all produced evidence of looting.  [CPO Comment: One of the findings before a MOU can be completed is that “the cultural patrimony of the State Party is in jeopardy from the pillage of archaeological or ethnological materials.”  19 USC Section 2602 (a) (1) (A).  Proponents and opponents argue about the extent and timing of the looting necessary to justify a MOU.  Is historic looting with some continuing looting enough as proponents maintain or must there be serious current looting to justify an agreement as opponents argue?  Given the State Department’s desire to reach agreement on as many MOUs as possible as “soft power” measures a lower bar for looting seems to have won out, at least for the present.]

CCP’s and GHA’s written comments on the Proposed MOU with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0011

CCP’s and GHA’s written comments on the Proposed Renewal of the MOU with Chile can be found in the 2024 docket here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0092

CCP’s and GHA’s written comments on the Proposed Renewal of the MOU with Costa Rica can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0108

CCP’s and GHA’s written comments on the Proposed Renewal of the MOU with Italy can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0010

CCP’s and GHA ‘s written comments for the Renewal with the Kingdom of Morocco can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0009

Frances Hayashida, the Director of the Latin American and Iberian Institute at the University of New Mexico, spoke in support of  the MOU with Chile.  She stated artifacts were still being looted from Chilean sites despite the best efforts of Chilean authorities.  She specifically pointed to a sale of textiles being stopped in 2021.  She stated that import restrictions create a chilling effect on the market.  She further stated that the current MOU has helped stimulate cultural exchanges between scholars in Chile and the U.S. 

CPAC member Andrew Connor commends Hayashida for her testimony that calls into question the statements about a lack of looting from another speaker.

Scott Palumbo, an anthropologist at the College of Lake County, Illinois, spoke in support of the MOU with Costa Rica.  He has observed significant looting in Costa Rica with sites looking like WWI battlefields.   He referenced the existence of a large archeological society in Costa Rica.  He suggested that enforcement of laws against looting has meant that the country is even running out of room to store recovered antiquities.   He added that the current MOU had helped stimulate cultural exchanges between scholars. 

CPAC member Andrew Connor praises Palumbo’s testimony about looting and further states that tourism and protection of cultural heritage are not mutually exclusive and can complement each other.

Randy Myers spoke as a board member on behalf of the Ancient Coin Collectors Guild (ACCG). He touched on several points focused on the MOU with Italy.  First, he indicated while the State Department is doing better providing notice, the time provided remains inadequate, making it difficult to solicit informed public comment.  Second, Myers noted that the State Department’s public notice indicates that the MOU is being treated as an extension of the current agreement with Italy, not an expansion of the current designated list.  He stated if an expansion of the current designated list is being contemplated, the State Department must provide the public with notice about this proposal and allow additional comment.  Third, he emphasized that unlike many ancient artifacts coins are mass produced, with dies used to strike as many as 10,000 to 15,000 coins each.  This large production of coins combined with their wide dispersion means that one cannot assume that late Roman Republican and Roman Imperial coins are found in Italy.  He then referenced the same analysis that IAPN did that only 5% of Roman Imperial coin hoards are found in what it today Italy.  For that reason, he concluded that one cannot assume that a Roman coin means  an Italian one.  He further indicated that he believes that the State Department should encourage Italy and other countries to implement programs akin to the Tresure Act and Portable Antiquities Scheme as the most effective self-help measures. 

 CPAC member Alex Baker asks a question, but it is difficult to hear.  Myers interprets it as a question about what is the best way to address looting to which Myers again reiterates the benefits of the UK’s system.   

The ACCG’s comments regarding the Renewal of the MOU with Italy can be found here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0042

Doug Mudd spoke on behalf of the American Numismatic Association (ANA), where he is the Curator of the Money Museum.  He focused his comments on the proposed renewal of the MOU with Italy.  As an archaeologist, he has seen the damaging effects of looting but he believes that because of the massive quantities that were produced coins should be treated  differently.   He reiterated Tompa’s and Myers’ statements that one cannot assume that a Roman coin was found where it was minted.  He asked that no new import restrictions be imposed on late Roman Republican and Roman Imperial coins.   He also asked that other widely circulating coins be delisted. Mudd believes that restrictions on bringing  coins into the US negatively impacts the education of our own people about our own cultural heritage.

The ANA’s comments regarding the Renewal of the MOU with Italy can be found  in the 2024 docket here: https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0089

Benjamin Utting is an archeologist and anthropologist specializing in the prehistoric cultures of  Southeast Asia.  He spoke in support of the new MOU with Vietnam.  He indicated that an MOU would stop the flow of black market antiquities into the U.S. and would also encourage Vietnamese authorities to take further protective steps and spur collaboration.

Notable Additional Written Comments

 CINOA’s comments, which can be found on the 2024 docket  here:

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2024-0048-0063

The Oriental Numismatic Society’s comments regarding the proposed MOU with the Socialist Republic of Vietnam can be found here:

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/DOS-2025-0003-0015

The speakers finished 20 minutes early.  As there were no additional questions, the Chair thanked the speakers before closing the public session and continuing discussions in private.

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